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Default 8 Nurses fired for refusing flu shot!

These nurses stated that it was against their Religious beliefs.

Ind. hospital fires 8 workers who refused flu shot - SFGate

Can we say BLATANT discrimination?
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There are many visitors to hospitals who can easily spread flu germs by sneezing, touching door knobs, elevator buttons, etc. Chances are the vast majority of the patients have had a flu vaccine. Where I work, if you don't want the flu vaccine you have to wear a mask at work for 6 months until flu season is over. I think that is a doable compromise. I get the flu vaccine to protect me. I understand that some people just don't want it for whatever reason.
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There are many visitors to hospitals who can easily spread flu germs by sneezing, touching door knobs, elevator buttons, etc. Chances are the vast majority of the patients have had a flu vaccine. Where I work, if you don't want the flu vaccine you have to wear a mask at work for 6 months until flu season is over. I think that is a doable compromise. I get the flu vaccine to protect me. I understand that some people just don't want it for whatever reason.


I agree with you Joanna and just how do the hospital administration plan to control that. Does this now mean that they are going to be liable if some one in their care gets the flu whilst in hospital?

I do not agree with forcing people to take it although I chose to but instead wear a mask for the entire flu season is an option.

When I was at the cancer center the last time one lady who was working behind the counter was wearing a mask as she chose not to take the flu vaccine.

It still should be personal choice, I think this hospital is too harsh on this and certainly one sided mentality.
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Is anyone here non-denominational Christian? I am curious how getting a vaccine goes against those beliefs. I'm Catholic, so maybe I'm not informed about that specific denomination but I have never heard such a thing...
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Is anyone here non-denominational Christian? I am curious how getting a vaccine goes against those beliefs. I'm Catholic, so maybe I'm not informed about that specific denomination but I have never heard such a thing...
We have two non-denominational christian churches in town. My understanding, from talking to friends who go, is that the non-denominational aspect of the church means they have no specific beliefs other than that God is our creator and Jesus is our savior.

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Not sure this makes it any clearer:

What is a “Non Denominational Church”? Non Denominational Churches are churches that choose not to formally be involved with a denomination. A denomination is a group of churches under a religious name that represents their core beliefs. The purpose of denominations is accountability and stability. Denominational churches tend to have different religious practices. Non denominational churches doesn’t focus on tradition but rather change. When we allow ourselves to change we give God the freedom to fix us or help us. Non denominational churches preach holiness, righteousness, and living a life that will please God. Non Denominational Church | Atlanta Churches | Prophetic Worship | Covenant Connections Church
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By definition, nondenominational Christians like myself do not subscribe 100% to the dogma of any established religion, other than the core beliefs in God/Jesus that Dutchie mentioned. The term may also be used for a Christian church that functions as an independent entity, with no supervising body (like the Catholic diocsese/archdiosece) or ties to other congregations.

In any situation, it really is more of a non-label than an actual label, you can tell that the nondenominational Christian does not believe in organized religion, but that's about it.

A person's opinion on vaccines really doesn't drive their choice to be nondenominational, rather, it is their opinion of organized religion and the associated dogma. Nondenominational Christians have no shared belief for or against vaccination as a whole, though individual sects may.

Clear as mud right??
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only churches I know of that the religion itself speaks against vaccines are Jehovah whiteness and Christian scientist . others may consider themselves to be God lead to not get it but it is not technically a religious belief since it is not a formed religious belief
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Nondenominational Christians have no shared belief for or against vaccination as a whole, though individual sects may.

Clear as mud right??
That's what I was thinking dria. You have non-denominational churches and non-denominational christians and the two do not necessarily meet. I would call myself a non-denominational Christian, even though I am baptised and confirmed by the Episcopal church. I choose not to attend a traditional denominational church. I choose to believe in God, as my holy father and Jesus as my savior, love, honesty, integrity, ethics and treating others as I would like to be treated, are my philosophies.

I would assume that some non-denominational churches choose their own rules, that their members are supposed to follow, but actually that doesn't really put them in the classification of a non-denominational church but more of a sect of their own.

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My question is what about our INDIVIDUAL right to religious freedom? Why does it have to be condoned by a 'Corporate Religion?'

I am non denominational..ie I do not go to church and do not support any mainstream religion. I was raised Church of Christ.

My belief leans more towards Mennonites and Amish. I PRACTICE what I believe. I don't just go to church when the doors are open. [Which is what I was taught was the ONLY thing I needed to do.]

Since we have a Constitutional right to practice our religion any way we see fit, then in my opinion the hospital was DEAD WRONG!!

There is a Scripture that states "Our bodies are a LIVING sacrifice." Therefore it would violate their belief to get a shot that is foreign to their bodies.

Just my thoughts.
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